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Holly Starley's avatar

โ€œBut, beyond that, I also hope that my writing helps readers connect with nature. In a time of climate crisis and environmental destruction, we need to better understand our connection to the natural world, its fragility, our fragility, the fact that human suffering is no different from nonhuman suffering, and we are inflicting so much suffering across the globe.โ€ This was my favorite part of the interview. As someone who adores your writing, Rebecca, I can see just this in it. Your pieces from your time with the monkeys and the birds youโ€™ve studied live in me. Iโ€™ve told others the stories youโ€™ve told as examples of just thatโ€”that human and nonhuman suffering are the same. So your intention is paving your way beautifully.

Thank you for the shoutout. To shine a light on hope is among my writing goals. So what a delight to hear this.

And I know what you mean by sharing this planet at the same time with the particular iterations of humans whose words speak to your heart giving you the warm fuzzies!!

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Julie Gabrielli's avatar

Reading this, Holly, I had the thought that a large part of our human suffering is *because* of the suffering of other beings โ€” whether weโ€™re aware of it or not. A cycle, but not a virtuous one. (It does point to a way out, though. Care, compassion, connection.)

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Holly Starley's avatar

Such a good point , Julie. A cycle that needs to be broken.

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Julie Gabrielli's avatar

Love when these exchanges lead to insights. Or reminders.

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Holly Starley's avatar

Right?! Itโ€™s a version of collaborative work. (Iโ€™m currently at a writing conference and have attended three super interesting sessions on collaborative workโ€”which has so many ideas blossoming in my noggin.)

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Julie Gabrielli's avatar

Oooo sounds juicy!

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Michela Griffith's avatar

What a precious memory to have Rebecca, of those baby thrushes, and their trust in you both. I love the partnership between your scientific knowledge and your eloquence as a watcher and wonderer. Perhaps evolutionary biology should be a compulsory subject so more of us regain our perspective. Thank you for the kind mention too.

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Julie Gabrielli's avatar

Well said, Michela. โ€œWatcher and wondered,โ€ indeed.

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Kimberly Warner's avatar

Rebecca is one-of-a-kind. Her voice, the way her selfhood blurs and blends with the natural world, the gentle but unforgettable wisdom she offers her readersโ€”I will be reading Rebecca for as long as sheโ€™s writing. What an honor (and surprise) to read that I might be a source of inspiration for her over here too. Thank you dear Rebecca for the kind mention. ๐Ÿ’›

And what a necessary, expansive moment for her young self to grasp!:

โ€œItโ€™s the first time I think I really understood that not only do we have the power to deeply connect to the natural world, but also the power to nurture and protect it.โ€

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Julie Gabrielli's avatar

I heartily agree! Her writing is special, magical. It puts me in a trance.

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